The VICI Code: Purpose-Driven Profits

From Combat to CEO: Integrating Faith, Family, and Holistic Wellness to Bridge the Military-Civilian Divide and Scale Non-Profit Impact

Joseph Dunaway Episode 31

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In episode 31 of The VICI Code, Joe Dunaway interviews Ryan Woodruff, CEO of Clear Path for Veterans, as he shares his personal experiences with isolation, mental health challenges, and the life-changing impact of service dogs as social facilitators for veterans.

Tune in for an honest conversation about faith, family, and the journey to victory.


TIMESTAMPS

[00:00:48] Warrior culture and mental health.

[00:05:41] Dogs as mirrors of character.

[00:10:15] The value of service dogs.

[00:12:56] Cost of veteran support programs.

[00:15:42] Connect, Restore, Grow model.

[00:22:05] Family's role in leadership.

[00:25:17] Intentional stability for children.

[00:29:10] Faith, family, fitness, importance.

[00:33:04] Spiritual wellness for veterans.

[00:35:59] Service dogs as community bridges.

[02:15:30] Faith fuels a fight.


QUOTES

  • "A dog is literally a mirror to your character." -Ryan Woodruff
  • "If you're putting out fires at home all the time, it's just really hard to be your best self and help other people outside the home." -Joe Dunaway
  • "Being vulnerable takes a lot more guts than hiding it." -Joe Dunaway

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Clear Path for Veterans:  https://www.clearpath4vets.com/




Welcome to the The VICI Code, where we unlock real stories of small business owners who've battled chaos, crushed doubt, and conquered their challenges. Faith, family, and finances. No fluff, just raw, honest conversations that decode the path to victory, one story at a time. What is up? Thank you for joining us today as we explore our latest purpose-driven journey, The Warrior Path, where we take a tour from combat to CEO, integrating faith, family, and holistic wellness to bridge the military-civilian divide and scale nonprofit impact. What happens when a warrior comes home to a world that feels like an alien planet? For many, the battle doesn't end overseas. It really begins in the silence of our own homes. Today's guest didn't just survive that silence, he turned it into a mission. Ryan Woodruff is a Marine Corps veteran and with two tours in Iraq by the age of 22. Ryan walked the path from a struggling client and peer educator at Clear Path for Veterans to becoming its CEO. We are exploring the holistic recovery model. We're diving into how service dogs act as social facilitators, how to lead a high impact nonprofit, and why warrior culture must evolve to include mental health and vulnerability. From the alien world of post-combat life to leading an organization that manages over 50 service dogs in training at a time, we're mapping Ryan's journey through the Vici Pillars. Ryan, Thanks for having me, Joe. I've been really excited about this. It's taken a little bit longer than I would have hoped, but nonetheless, I'm Well, now that we have you, I'm so excited to jump right in. Uh, we got a lot to cover in a short period of time. So we always like to start with, you know, the breakthrough let's, let's go through that alien world. And you know, your, your, uh, your experience with a dog you've described coming home from Iraq at 22, feeling like you were in an alien world. You eventually became a client at clear path before you ever let it. What was that specific breakthrough moment with a service dog maybe that shifted you from surviving to realizing you had a massive leadership calling still ahead of Yeah, man, there's just so much to unpack there. Really, the best way I can describe it is coming out of the military for us who served specifically in the Marine Corps, we think we have a plan, we're ready to execute, regardless of the circumstances, we'll adapt and overcome. However, you know, my plan did not work out as I had set up the blueprint for, and I had to pivot. I didn't realize how challenging it would be in the civilian world, in the real world, right? I mean, the dependency you form in the brotherhood that you develop in the Marine Corps, the attachments, the adversity that you go through. As much as in real time, we think we wanna get away from it. It's so easy to get outside of that environment, you miss it. And so life becomes a little bit too easy, right? And it's a little isolating and you're trying to find community, integrate socially. And the experience we have at such a young and formative age make it very difficult to do so. So I struggled with alcohol. I struggled with isolation. I struggled with suicidal ideation, anxiety, and repeatedly becoming more and more far from my true self. And it wasn't until I entered into ClearPath, not just as a staff member, as a peer mentor, but also a recipient of services. And the K-9 program was a catalyst for everything that was what to come. you know, over a 10 year period. And I truly believe for if we're lucky, it'll take us, you know, less than a decade, the path to recovery, to move beyond circumstances and challenges. But it certainly was the dog for me, going through that canine program, helped me rediscover some things helped me discover an affinity that I didn't know was there. It definitely reestablished some purpose. It helped me view an animal in the same way that I would view some of the relationships I had in the military. Just a, you know, a willingness to stand shoulder to shoulder with a dog and work through some very challenging circumstances. So that was the beginning and How do these dogs act as a social facilitator for veterans who Big part of that is just to when we're moving folks through our program, we want to ensure that they have already completed something within their healing journey. Right. Like so that could be. faith-based groups, that could be therapy, it could be traditional, you know, behavioral, cognitive therapy, clinical work. We just need to know that for at least six months, there was some work that they have accomplished, mainly because dogs are And they're a inner reflection of your character, right? Like you look into a dog's eyes and a lot of people describe their dog and their character traits. And I asked them, I go, how much of that is relatable to you, right? Because we don't, we often forget that a dog is literally a mirror to your character. And so with the veterans coming into the program, we want to make sure that they have reached a certain state of wellness. Now, obviously they wouldn't be entering into this program if they have achieved full independence. Um, but they have gone through certain periods to which, uh, it's the right time to be placed with the service dog. Now that was, that was interesting for me because the dog actually was placed with never ended up becoming a service dog. And it is for the exact reason that I'm explaining. I didn't go through any of that help that I, uh, had should have, should have navigated down in the early years post transition, but it was an eye opener helped me realize how important some of that stuff was. So, you know, while it didn't work out as I had planned, you know, for the second or third time after leaving the military, I think it was a plan greater And then so. from client to, well, not client, but from, yeah, I guess client to CEO, right? What's the hardest part of moving from one of the guys to the CEO seat of an organization that helps save you? Same thing within the military, fraternization and When you're moving up the ranks and you're kind of passing up your peers, that can be a difficult transition, right? However, what worked out really well for me at ClearPath was that I started at the bottom of the ladder, and I went through all of the challenges that we collectively were going through as an organization over a decade, right? through a lot of just not just like hard great work but critically analyzing our business model the system what's working what's not working i'm trying to understand like i didn't have to have all the answers for one the biggest. issue that I had to navigate personally is imposter syndrome. Just telling myself, like, what's an infantry guy as a rifleman in the Marine Corps got anything to do with being a director at a nonprofit or a program officer? Not to mention, like, the CEO role. All of those things I felt so inhibited by. But on that same note, like I would surround myself with people that knew things that I didn't do. You included, Joe, in the finance world, you know, like understanding our P&L and where to make these adjustments. And so I didn't have to have all the answers. It's the same thing in the military. There's so much that's transferable from a military mindset they could bring into the business world that I think is just so critically important. a four man firing team, everybody on that team has a different role to accomplish a mission, right? And so that's something that I've really realized more recently, you know, that like, you can take your mission in the military and translate it in such a way that makes perfect sense out in this world. So that's been a huge takeaway, but surrounding myself with people that are smarter than myself, something that I will always do and Yeah. I mean, that's a good lesson. You know, the vulnerability of not needing to know all the answers and putting the right people around you, because really that's, you're a master facilitator at that point as a CEO and making sure that people are put in positions to, um, do the job that they're best capable of doing and feel like they're winning. Right. And, and supporting them. Um, a lot of people think that, you know, CEO is the boss. Well, the CEO works for everybody and their structure and layering to it, but really, you know, they're really working for all those people that report to them. So, and like you mentioned, you know, you and I had a meeting, you know, I don't know, within the first few weeks of you taking the position and it was very exciting time and we did, we went over finances. So let's go over the economic impact. Each service dog costs roughly, and this is, I looked this up, $52,500 to train and place a dog. From a finance and leadership perspective, how do you communicate the ROI of a service dog to a community that might only see the price tag and not the Yeah, what's the value of human life, right? I mean, there's been so many occasions where the service members that we're working with have said that the difference between them being here and not the service dog. And so, you know, when a veteran takes an oath to serve their country, they're they're taking an oath to do so amid such a. You know, such adversity and tyranny to go overseas or to do it domestically, to risk life and limb. It's very meaningful for me, I'll tell you that, because there's a lot of brothers that didn't come home with me after my first deployment, right? They certainly gave that ultimate sacrifice in defense of the freedoms we have in this great nation. And so, you know, the$52,500 price tag, our organization puts everything back into that dog. And so that they can live out a happy, healthy life with their veteran for 12 to 14 years. providing critical task and work to help them overcome symptomatic post-traumatic stress, feel better about who they are, improve their quality of life, increasing self-compassion, decreasing isolation, all these things that we've measured over time, we see this stuff. It's so obvious to me, right? Like I've seen it, I've experienced it, this works. So it's just, you know, how do we remove the barrier for the veteran and ensure that they have the best experience, a wholly integrated experience at ClearPath? We pull out all the stops. wherever a Veteran is in the country, we can provide them with this service. We fly them out to ClearPath, we provide them with transportation, three cooked meals a day through our culinary program, wellness services, non-clinical holistic modalities, peer support. So, they're getting this all-inclusive model when they get to experience not just the K9 program, but ClearPath as a whole. And at the end of the day, that's that's the cost for every service dog going through our program. And it's a two year process. So, you know, you raise a puppy, if you raise a pet for two years and actually quantify the amount of finances that go into that dog, could tell you a pretty telling picture. Dogs are expensive, right? Vet bills, food, you know, preventatives, health care. And then when you really ramp up that quality and you give them a custom diet, a specified nutritional plan, the highest degree of health and wellness care possible, you're doing health clearances for hips, eyes, elbows, heart, you know, the whole nine yards. It gets very expensive very quickly, but certainly Yeah. And what's the alternative though, right? Like, you know, a Veteran in need that's not getting the support and help they need. There's no doubt that there's a drain on, uh, the local tax situation or the amount of services that may not be working, that they're eating up. Whereas this could be that one thing that, and it usually is it's, it's proven to be effective with, uh, the Veterans that have come through your program. So, $52,000 is really all that much compared to what other tax dollars could be spending on a Veteran who's not getting the help that they could be getting and causing more issues to themselves. And on the complete other side, look at yourself. you're out there making, you know, you're turning that ROI into massive progress. So I think we do see the number, but, you know, when you explain it that way and all that goes into the program for each pairing, it's really not all 100% since, you know, I don't like to use my personal story as a case study, because I'm a CEO over the organization, right? Obviously, I'm going to be a little bit biased towards this program. However, since being placed with a service dog at ClearPath or since going through that program, after eight months, I quit drinking. I haven't had a drop of alcohol in over eight years. I am not taking a single prescription. I have found my faith community. My family life is better than it's ever been. I think there are are so many, and I understand a lot of that's like anecdotal, but it's all very much true. So it's a catalyst that starts there. But from from that point moving forward, you you're the potential is like limitless. You can do so much. And at this point, as the CEO to have a ripple effect on other veterans, family members and community members that get connected with ClearPath, that's the ROI, right? So you invest in a veteran. 52,500, look And that's just one program you guys offer. ClearPath offers a holistic support career services, peer mentoring and wellness, you know, so you can come in through one of those other avenues and end up in the dog program or start off with a dog program and use those other services to, you know, check the box and, you know, meet the standards for becoming a candidate for that. How do you ensure these systems remain warrior-centric Yeah, I mean, our model is very unique. It's built on three pillars of connect, restore, grow. So all of our programs fall under one of those three pillars, right? We're all about community and connection. And that can happen through food, through break and bread, through our peer mentoring program. through community outreach. And then when you move into Restore, it's looking more into the critical services that we provide that can be through peer mentoring, filling in basic needs, helping with suicide prevention, our canine program, wellness services, dealing with pain and stress, suicide prevention through our Staff Sergeant Fox program. And Restore, Grow, rather, is more about what goes beyond this, volunteering, community outreach, our Clear Path Connections program, which is new this year. So in terms of the scalability of that, there is, to my knowledge, we are one of 156 organizations in the entire world that are accredited by Assistance Dogs International. So that makes ClearPath and Central New York very unique. If you were to compound that a little bit further, we're the only program that's offering holistic wraparound services through a Connect, Restore, Grow model. So it's very much something that if a veteran experiences, it's a one size fits one experience in which they're going to be able to navigate through their own unique circumstances at one establishment. However, as far as national scaling, like our canine program in 2022, after we became accredited, we realized There are veterans all over the country that are struggling to get into these service dog programs. It's taking two, three to five years before they can receive that critical life-saving support. And so that was easy for us to make that decision, like, let's go national. Let's pilot this and see how it works. We did so very successfully. And since then, we've been placing dogs all over the country. Most recently, we started a new program called Operation Socrates, where we're helping active duty service members go through a DOD skill bridge program to move into K through 12 teaching careers. Very successful. We're now in 18 different states. We have over 120 participants, and we've had over 67 partnerships with school districts all across the country. which is just incredible, right? And we're doing it all from right here in like central New York. In the past, I used to think national expansion meant putting up a building in some other state, right? And the amount of infrastructure and finances, everything, and standing that up and staffing it, it's incredible. It's a huge weight. And I realized like we can have national impact without actually physically moving our location. And I think that's just a great lesson to be learned for anybody thinking about scalability, right? Like how can we do what we're doing and just increase impact rather than, you know, pick up our operation and try to replicate it somewhere else. At some point that will be a reality, but our focus right now is mastering what we're doing right here, mastering the art of veteran services here in central New York and beyond, and then starting to slowly scale our programs out. You make it sound easy. What's the biggest challenge in running a non-for-profit with the operational speed of a for-profit business? Resource allocation. As we talked about in the beginning, we don't possess all of the unique skill sets that a highly sophisticated for-profit operation may have the capacity to build within their organization from a staffing standpoint, right? We have a lot of grants, foundations, grants, even charitable donations tend to be restricted towards a certain program or service and less likely to support administrative or operational support. And that's that's critical. Our operational administrative support in order to, you know, be a be pillars to the organization. Right. Like it's not the foundation, but it's certainly the studs. It's what keeps everything housed and intact is critically necessary. But it is a challenge. Right. So we have had to be very mindful about partnering with the community. Right. Like We want, and we're inviting business, small businesses, medium businesses in the Central New York community and beyond to partner with us. And what does that look like? Right? Like sometimes it's a business relationship. Sometimes it's, you know, like we talked about in the past, what is, how do you manage the, uh, the accounting at ClearPath? You know, we recognizing we can't, we can't fill a full department of all these positions, because it would, from a payroll perspective, it costs a ton of money. Rather, like, how can we partner with businesses that are aligned with the military culture and our mission? I think that's important. That's our message, right? Our vision is to bridge the military-civilian divide. And there are a lot of business owners out there that are looking for different unique ways of how they can spread their own impact and how can they, you know, social responsibility, how can they be a partner to receiving veterans home, partner with ClearPath. and look at different ways you may be able to use your special skill sets to help our operations here. That's been huge. We have a lot of great partners and a lot of people that are helping us externally. And again, it takes a village. That's been a very big message for me this year is just like, how can we leverage the community? And That's great. It does take a village, right? Now let's get into the pillars, right? We've got into finance a little bit there, but let's talk faith, family, fitness, all things that are very familiar to you and breaking the cycle for family. You've moved frequently as a child, which led you to seek community in the Marines. Now It's everything. You know, I mean, as you know, we homeschool, and we're deeply rooted in our Christian community. We go to church at Eastern Hills Bible Church right here in, well, Manlius. I'm outside of Manlius, but, you know, Your family comes first in a lot of regards, right? It's God first, but family comes in close second. And your house has to remain in order. That's really important. I think that's often missed in the self-help books for whatever it might be, starting a business or climbing the corporate ladder. Or what do you do at this midpoint when you're trying to figure life out family first? Because if your house isn't not in order, it's going to have an impact on everything else that you do. So your marriage, your relationship with your children, that's the unit, right? You got to be you got to be where you need to be for that. And if that if that's not in balance, it needs to be maintained as a priority. You know, for me, that that looks like coming home on time, not always working late or trying to bring my work home. That means if I need to stop down the road for a minute and decompress and, you know, let things kind of settle down before I walk through that threshold and where I move from the matrix to my home life. That's something you got to be mindful of. And likewise, you know, what is it? How do you set your day apart? Like, what do you do when you wake up? What's the first thing that you do? You know, and in the quiet hours of the morning, which I found, and I know you find like one of the most important parts of your day, that's like the only uninterrupted period you're going to have most often, maybe half hour or so at night, but I get up, I wake up before the sun rises, five o'clock, religiously every day, start my day in the word, I read a little bit of scripture, I read a devotional, I jot my thoughts down, I talk to God, I pray. And that could be 45 minutes or an hour, but it sets the tone for everything else that's going to come. And it really does help ground me, whatever I might be experienced, whatever challenge I might be encountering. I can always go back to the word or think about, you know, what areas was my life being spoken into this morning? So those are just some things that I find very important. And my family is completely aligned with that. My son, Joey, was just showing me how much scripture he's memorized over the past several weeks. It's absolutely incredible, like humbling too, because I Yeah, that's amazing. Well, you are leading by example, and he sees that. So that's the best form of flattery is someone copying what you do. So you know you're doing a good job there. And when I look at moving a lot, I can relate to that. And the first word that comes to mind is stability. How are you intentionally creating stability for your children that We're rooted. In the past, I mean, it would have been easy for me to just run away from problems. It's not working out. That's how I handled relationships. That's how I, I didn't handle job. I never had an opportunity to handle a job like that. I mean, I got out of high school, I was in the Marine Corps, and then that pretty much hardwired into me. Commitment, you know, what do you do when you get a new job or whatever? So any job, I've only had three jobs. I was, well, before the Marine Corps, I don't count that, but Marine Corps, arborist, ClearPath, that's it, right? And that stability, right? So my kids have grown, literally grown up at ClearPath. They've, they, they're there, they get to it because it's a family friendly atmosphere. They're there every week. The year after I started there, my kids were born. So they know nothing different than ClearPath. They get to be immersed in our canine program because we foster dogs all the time. And we have routines, right? Like my wife, Yeah, God bless her. She has this rigid and I say rigid, but it's not. It's it's a routine that makes sense for my children. They start school at eight. They end at noon. They're outside. They're doing these things every day. Like everything is somewhat predictable, but not to a point where they can't handle change. Right. So it's not just me. While I lead the charge in certain areas of my family, I give an immense amount of credit to my wife, give credit to my children, and for Yeah, I mean, God says when you get married, two become one, right? So who you marry has a lot to do with what your impact can be. If you're putting out fires at home all the time, it's just really hard to be your best self and help other people outside the home. So protecting that is just so important. you know, but there's a, there's, there's an in between, you know, work and home, you know, how do you balance the always on demand of being a CEO with the presence required to be a father and Well, there are times where I got to be selfish, I'll be honest with you. If I didn't go to the gym as much as I do, or invest a little bit in a hobby of mine, it would be hard to keep all of my cylinders firing off the way they need to. There is a lot of stress that comes with the weight of being a CEO. There's a lot of stress that comes with the weight of being the father of a household, a husband. And so, you know, I have a fitness routine that I find very important to me. I've actually, I'll give a shout out to a good friend of mine. His name is Lucas Bray. He's a graduate of our canine program and he started a strength and conditioning program called Victus Combat Strength and Conditioning. He's an incredible human being, let me just say. He's a strength and conditioning coach at Le Moyne College as well. And we've developed a cadence and I've signed up for his training programs. And it's like a full circle, right? Like somebody that goes through our program, starts a business, he's killing it out there. And now I'm like one of his clients. So he creates custom workout plans for me. And that's my routine, right? Like Monday, Wednesday, Friday, I'm in the gym. I also do boxing in the evenings. My wife does jiu jitsu down at VN Jiu Jitsu. My son is taking up boxing with me. My daughter's doing dance and ballet. And these are just these are gifts. We are so lucky and blessed to have the ability to do these things. But it helps me mentally, for sure. Physically, 100 percent faith, family fitness. You are 100 percent right. This stuff is just absolutely critical. It's not a well, like maybe I should go down this road. In my opinion, that's a requirement. Your body's a temple. You should treat it that way. And If you haven't started to go down that road, I highly recommend like Absolutely. That's why they call them the four pillars. I mean, they're non-negotiables for me. And when I deviate from any one of those, I feel it. I notice it. And over time, you know what it feels like to be clicking on all cylinders, right? So when one of those are lacking, you start identifying, you start seeing the patterns. And we talked a little bit about faith. You've mentioned finding healing through spirituality. In the military, discussing mental health was often discouraged. How do you integrate faith and spiritual resilience into the warrior culture Yeah, 100%. It's about the community, right? And how I was introduced to faith was certainly not by accident. I hit a low point in my journey and was experiencing deep loss. My first couple years of sobriety were not easy, and I became a hollow version of myself. And so there was a volunteer at Clear Path who saw me and just said, He extended his arm to me and said, hey, man, like you're going through it. I don't know who you are or what's going on, but I can tell like he saw darkness radiating from me. Right. And coincidentally, right, I was I was trying desperately at home to figure out How can I fix this? Right. I tried therapy. I was going to the vet center. Prescription medications weren't working for me. I was sober and sobriety only took away my coping mechanism to, you know, the mask that I wore for so long. And I didn't have that anymore. So I had to rediscover my identity. I started reading Wild at Heart by John Eldredge because that book was a gift by my father-in-law in 2014 before I got married. And it sat on a bookshelf for almost six years, right? Six years. I didn't have any idea of what investing in my faith would look like or a Christian walk. To me, there was faith there, there was belief, but it wasn't deep. It was very much just like, well, I don't believe in nothing. I believe there's something there. Anyway, this book helped translate a lot of things for me. And John, well, I'll mention his name, John Isler, the volunteer at ClearPath, this is the guy that says, hey, Every Tuesday night, we have this men's group, and we'd love for you to join us. It's based on this book, Wild at Heart. And I was like, whoa, that's crazy, because I just started reading that book, and I was intrigued. I was like, there's no way. How could that have happened? That's not an accident or coincidence. And a couple weeks later, I jumped in and started to join this small group. And I've been there for several years. I don't attend as much as I used to, but for over five years, I went through some deep healing with those guys, veterans, non-veterans, and a lot of vulnerability to work through biblical truth, which is what really, really helped me. But the conduit for me was Clear Path. It was a volunteer at ClearPath that gave me a helping hand. Now, beyond that, we are investing a little bit into spiritual wellness. We are in a pilot phase of that. Last year, we did a eight-week program on spiritual wellness, particularly spiritual disciplines. What is prayer? What is silence, solitude? Getting a little bit into scripture and helping veterans seeking spiritual direction have a safe place to do that. I don't know what the future holds. We're still working on this. So, I do hope that we have more available, but it may be one of those things where we don't seek the master internally, but we go to the community and say, like, how can we create a safe space for veterans that are trying to find spiritual healing? I think there's a lot of value in that. And again, anybody listening to this that Yeah, that makes two of us, you know, if anybody, anybody is looking in thinking, you know, you could benefit or you know, somebody that can benefit from these services, you know, don't hesitate, please reach out. As a matter of fact, if you if you're interested in supporting clear path. You know, where can listeners go to support, you know, helping fund the program? Specifically, I know there's a lot of listeners. A lot of people in my life are dog and pet people. If they want to get involved more directly with contributing locally, I would say give us a call. And I'd be happy to sit down and have coffee with you at our main campus. It's one thing to see our website, right? And to like talk about this stuff, but to actually go there and experience it is a totally different thing. Joe, you've been there. To see hundreds of veterans in our great room experiencing meal and camaraderie or to see a veteran graduate our service dog program, there's, it's, it's meaningful, and it'll bring it to your knees. So I would, I would really encourage those locally to come visit us. Like it's, you're welcome to come to ClearPath. It's a main, it's a campus in Chittenango, New York, come out and see it. Otherwise, you know, you can check us out on social media, on our website, ClearPathRevets.org. We're on Instagram, we're on Facebook, and probably every other social handle. We have some great mini-docs on YouTube that I would encourage everybody to take a look at, just highlighting Yeah, I've been there. I'm there at least two to three times a year. The view is breathtaking. You won't want to leave. You'll want to come back. Great organization. Ryan, thank you so much. I just want to go over a couple of quick takeaways, and then we'll roll into ways that our audience can stay in touch with you and get in touch with ClearPath. But my first takeaway is service dogs can be a bridge to community. As you can see with what ClearPath is doing, if you're a dog person, you know what that dog's done for you, whether it's a family dog or it's your battle buddy. As they continue to build out this critical resource for bringing the community in, they're a part of it. They're a part of the healing process. So it's really incredible what the Service Dog Program has been able to do for veterans, for the community, and for the organization. And the evolution of the warrior mindset is my next takeaway. I've been through a similar journey myself, Ryan, spiritually and just being okay to be vulnerable. It is really hard. And I think a lot of that comes from maybe not having the ideal upbringing or listening to those who are broken and thinking that There's a way to be a man and be a warrior the reality is you know being vulnerable takes a lot of got to take a lot more guts than you know hiding it and the trade office. you'll get the help that you need. We're all in it together, and it's great to see the narrative changing on what it means to be a man and what it means to be a warrior by opening up and being honest with ourselves and with those who are able to help us and seeking that help. Um, and then, you know, the VICI pillars as we discussed, faith, family, fitness, finance are just so important. Um, but I think all the more so for like the veteran healing process and transitioning from, you know, your, your military life to your civilian life, those pieces are really important. So if you're a veteran out there, um, and you're wondering, you know, how do I get out of this mess? You know, how do I, How do I attack the war at home, as some people may call it? It's not a science, but there is a method to it, and it works. And Ryan and I are both people who can speak thoroughly to it, and we'd love to help if we can. Ryan, thank you so much for your service. Uh, and you know, for everything you're doing with the clear path vision. Um, if you want to support the mission and help fund service dogs or any of the other programs, uh, that you find meaningful, um, we are leaving the, the, the website in the show notes. Um, we're also going to leave you Ryan's, uh, Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn. So you can reach out to him and whatever medium works best for you. Um, you know, And that's all I got. Ryan, thank you so much to our audience. Stay blessed, stay grounded, and keep finding your clear path. We'll see you on the next episode of the VICI Code. Thanks for tuning in to the VICI Code, where the underdogs rise and the numbers finally make sense. 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