The VICI Code: Purpose-Driven Profits

Reclaiming the Fundamentals: How Unconventional Health Strategies Drive Business Productivity, Profit, and Community Impact

Joseph Dunaway Episode 28

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In episode 28 of The VICI Code, Joe Dunaway interviews Kalvin Langenberg, Founder of Long Haul Coaching & The Savage Man Project, who shares how he rebuilt his philosophy and now empowers CEOs, business owners, and driven individuals to reshape their lives and organizations.

Tune in for practical strategies for implementation that don’t require a massive budget but deliver enormous results.


TIMESTAMPS

[00:00:02] Meet Calvin Langenberg—From Health Coach to Culture Shifter

[00:06:18] Why the System Is Broken (and How to Fix It)

[00:08:44] The Power of Long-term Mindset and Perseverance

[00:14:20] Health as a Profit Driver—ROI for Leaders & Teams

[00:17:37] Actionable Strategies for Workspace Wellness on Any Budget

[00:23:05] Discipline, Masculinity, and Leading Your Family by Example

[00:30:52] Faith, Fundamentals, and Staying Grounded in Your Purpose


QUOTES

  • "It's never like the big massive breakthrough things—it's the really small aspects that add up." – Kalvin Langenberg
  • "Leading by example is setting the proof of, 'Hey, this is how I do things, and I'm loving life.' – Joe Dunaway
  • "If your spouse isn't on the same page or if you're not able to lead by example, your health is just going to struggle. Everything comes back to you as your responsibility." – Kalvin Langenberg


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Welcome to The Vici Code, where we unlock real stories of small business owners who've battled chaos, crushed doubt, and conquered their challenges. Faith, family, and finances. No fluff, just raw, honest conversations that decode the path to victory, one story at a time. All right, what is up? Thank you for joining us today as we explore our latest Purpose-Driven Journey, the Health Wealth Connection, where we look at reclaiming the fundamentals, how unconventional health strategies drive business productivity, profit, and community impact. We are told that to be successful and business owner, you do have to make sacrifices, which is true. But for some of us, that means sacrificing health, for wealth, and that's not the way to do it. You'll find that that might be the very thing capping your productivity and your profit. From San Antonio, Texas, Calvin Langenberg's mission is to partner with business owners to provide education on simple and effective strategies for health in the workspace. After spending over a decade in the health industry and 12,000 hours of one-on-one coaching and consulting, Calvin realized how much our modern system has failed at teaching us The fundamentals of health. If the culture in your work environment can shift toward more healthy, friendly conditions, it brings opportunity to increase productivity, profit to the business, as well as increase the quality of the life of each individual. And after all, isn't that what it's all about, Cal? Now, Cal and I, uh, connected over Instagram a little over a month ago. A buddy of mine was suggesting me like, hey, you got to check out this guy. I'm I know him, he can help you with, you know, mobility and fitness. I'm like, great, now everyone knows about my mobility issues. Cool. Anyway, I checked out his content and immediately I was like, I gotta have this guy on and show this, show this guy to our Vici audience. Calvin brings raw, high-energy perspective to the Vici Code platform. His long-haul philosophy and Savage Man Project align perfectly with our mission of leadership Discipline and Legacy. Calvin, welcome to the show, man. Yeah, that was a solid intro. That was sweet. I like that. We don't, we don't do anything half-assed around here, dude. You know, I, I feel like I'm going to disappoint a lot of people because when you said San Antonio, Texas, they're probably expecting like the Texas twang. You know, twang, man. What happened to it? And yeah, I got it. I thought you were turning your twang filter on. No, no, no, no. It's just echoing a little bit and we'll edit it out, so don't worry about it. Okay, sweet. All right. So, yeah, anyways, yeah. So the only, only thing that you'll notice about anything Texas about me is that I say y'all, and I didn't really notice that, but someone pointed out to me. But do you say y'all? Like, is there like, where are you from? I'm in Syracuse, New York. We still say y'all. There's, there's, you know, upstate New York's not all posh, right? There's— it's actually I don't know if you know this, but upstate New York is predominantly like farmland. Dairy is— dairy is really big in upstate New York. So there's a lot of y'alls floating around here. Do you guys say— do you guys say soda or pop? That— it depends on what city. In Syracuse, we say soda. You go over a city left or a city right, it becomes pop. As you get closer to Canada or Buffalo, it's definitely pop. And I think it's pop in Michigan too and somewhere out that way. So yeah, it's soda in Syracuse. I'll just say this disclaimer, don't drink it. Not good for you. Yeah. Noted. Yeah. Well, if anyone, if anyone here is San Antonio, Texas and they, they try to pin me as some cowboy or whatever, it's just, it's not gonna, it's not gonna go well with the, with my, my vibe. Disappointments right up the front, man. I know I always tell my wife like boosts over boots, you know, like the boots, shoes. Yeah. Yeah. I think I've worn boots and a cowboy hat like once and it was like to a wedding or something. So yeah, I got, I got no background in cowboying or whatever it's called. My son, we'll get into this a little bit later, but my, my son is on a huge like cowboy kick, cowboy boots. He's got a sheriff hat. He's got a, he's lassoing people in the house. It's like, come on, man. But, uh, let's rewind. Is that, is that a Whoop you're wearing? Yeah, let's go! We're Whoop brothers. What was your HRV today, bro? Gotta stay in the green, man. Gotta stay in the green. It's always funny when I see someone with a Whoop, that's like the first question, like, what was your, what was your HRV today, bro? It's like, I know, what's your VO2 max? Yeah, how long have you had yours? Uh, it's been just over a year. I got it for myself last Christmas, so Yeah, it's good, man. I've got you beat. I'm on like, I'm on year 5 and I always tell people like, it's like, so if no one knows what it is, it's like this health monitor kind of watch or band. Yeah. And what's funny is I always tell people like, it's supposed to improve your health, but I'm probably like, because I've been wearing it for so long, I'm probably gonna get like cancer in that arm because it's always like registering it. You know, I'm like, I don't know. I've been reading, I've been reading the articles on, you know, the harm of wearables. I'm just like, whatever, man, I'm doing everything else right, I, I'll beat it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hopefully, hopefully. It's just like, that would just be like ironic if, yeah, I've been wearing this, this, this, uh, fitness band to keep my health up, and then like I get cancer in my right arm because I've been wearing it for 10 years or whatever. Died from his Whoop. Yeah, yep, yep, yep. What's that, uh, what's that picture in the background? I feel like that's a famous picture. Yeah, that's the, that's the, uh, steel workers, uh, working on the Rockefeller Center, New York City. Yeah. Nice. Nice, dude. Like before, before OSHA hit the scene, that was when they like had no harnesses, just sitting up there in tank tops, boots, and jeans, eating their lunch, just minding their own business, living life, man. Crazy. Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup. Real crazy. Times are different, but yo, let's jump in, man. Let's get into your early times. You know, I want to jump into that 12,000 hours in the trenches. You know, you've been coaching individuals one-on-one. You've seen the patterns. What was the specific breakthrough moment where you realized that the modern system wasn't just slightly off, but had fundamentally failed the people it was supposed to help? Yeah. You know, like when you say that word system, like, that's probably the thing that's— I don't know. I guess I've just been kind of like always not necessarily like anti-system, but Right off the bat, you just kind of know if you have this bird's eye view of the world that systems are flawed. And if you subject yourself to a system, it's easy to fall prey to just kind of being very dogmatic and not being able to be adaptable with the certain things. And also too, when you're in a system, the thing becomes the thing and you lose sight of the more important things, which are the bigger picture, the principles of what you're doing. And so I think right off bad in the fitness industry. I just saw that, you know, like when I was studying for the training test or just, you know, seeing other trainers at work, it was just kind of like everyone was just like repeating clichés or they weren't actually focused on people's results. It was kind of just going through the motions. And so, I mean, I think from the get-go, it was just peeling back those layers of the quote unquote system. And just seeing like, okay, like what is actually really important? What's the, what's the thing that does actually drive results for people? What actually matters? And so yeah, that's probably the process that kind of started just like seeing, seeing it as principles over like a strict system is probably the first step to kind of understanding, I guess, like the broader, the broader narrative behind what's actually important. Yeah. And I think, you know, like many things in life, systems have a place, right? For me, you know, I like being on a system. I'm regimented because there's some intentionality behind it. It allows me to have the flexibility in other areas of my life and, and have grace in other areas of my life. So, so in perspective, systems are good, uh, but bad systems are clearly not good. Um, why is the long-haul mindset so difficult for today's business owners to grasp in a world of 6-week transformations? It's hard, you know, like it's easy to say, but when you're, you know, 5, 10, 15, 20 years into something and it just doesn't seem like it's working, you kind of feel like a fraud. You feel like a failure and you feel like there's so many moments along the way. I mean, I always like to pair the analogy back to like basketball. I love basketball and, you know, as a 5'8" dude, I've always, I've never been like the most athletic basketball player or anything like that, but I've always found that I could be, you know, high value to a team by being a good shooter. And so growing up, that was kind of like my in to just being a valuable asset to the team. And so, you know, it's kind of the same process as shooting. Like if you, like as a child, were like, hey, you know, you want to be a really, really good shooter on the team, your first like 10 years, like it's just going to be a, it's going to be a struggle. Like you're not going to, you're not going to find your rhythm. You're not going to find a shot. It's just repetition after repetition. And there's times you go into the gym and it just freaking sucks. And you just, your shooting percentage is awful. Everything feels, feels terrible. And it's never like this, this linear progression. It's, it's this like kind of like roller coaster that kind of progresses over time. So I think that that's probably the hardest thing. For people, it's not necessarily the waiting or the perseverance or the patience. It's really just because it is actually a difficult thing. And it's, it's, it's not for everyone for sure. And so I think that it's just one of those things when, like, I think Hormozy says something like the difference between a master and a protégé is the master has hindsight to reflect on. And so like when you have all those repetitions to look back on and when adversity comes, you can look at that and say, oh, this is just a part of the process versus like a noob when they see adversity. The second that they see it, they're like, oh man, like this is, this is the end. I failed, whatever. And so I think just sticking with it long enough to understand that adversity and failure are just a part of the process. And the reality is that failure realistically only happens if you, if you stop and you give up. And also, you know, sometimes switching and adjusting and that's not failure either. And so, yeah, I would say that to answer that question very simply, it's just, it's freaking hard. Yeah. And when I think long haul, I think consistency and discipline, and that's just not something that the younger generations have a really good grasp on, especially in the age of— I think we're just— luckily, we're coming out of this stage of parenting, we'll call it, where everyone's a winner, everything's good. It's just, you're really setting up your kid for failure because life's not easy and it's meant to be hard. And God challenges us for, you know, to, to, to make things harder for us so that we can be stronger on the other end of that. So there's always, there's always something special on the other side of those challenges, those hurdles, those struggles. So when I think long haul, I think of, you know, someone who's more aware that You're gonna have your ups and downs and just be consistent if you want the outcome you're looking for. Be disciplined because motivation comes and goes, right? So yeah, I think that, you know, one of the things that you, you kind of touched on is like, like even a little bit deeper than that is that I think it's William Shakespeare that said like expectation is the root of all heartache. And so if our constant society, uh, norm is that the expectation is that everything comes to us quick, you know, we can tap on our phone and boom, DoorDash shows up at our door And that's how we're brought up and that's how we're raised. And, you know, our expectation of everything is that it's going to be easy. Well, then you try to start a business or something and then you're like, well, this isn't as easy as, you know, the guy online is making it seem, or it's not as easy as, you know, a touch of a button, something shows up to my door. It just, it kind of destroys our expectations. And so I think that that's a big part of it. I think the long haul ideology too just kind of emphasizes the fact that it's a journey and that like the journey's never over. You know, I think that You know, one of the things like when I, when I got more into like coaching is like a lot of the, a lot of the emphasis was on like these quick challenges or like these things that are kind of like momentary, momentary resolve. And I think that there's, there's time and place for those, but those are to build momentum. And I mean, your fitness is not like a one and done thing. And I think if you see it like that, then it just, again, it leads that expectation of, okay, I can do this for 10 months and then I don't have to do it again. It's like, no, no, no, it's a journey. It's a long haul. And it's a constant thing. So yeah, I think framing it, framing it in that way is a journey and process and just being patient and just kind of being willing to just understand where you're at in that is, is probably the key to, I guess you could call it success with anything because who knows what that means, but. Cal, I really like what you said. Success— fitness is not a one-and-done thing. I like that. Yeah, that really— that landing stuck really well, dude. Let's get into health as a profit driver. You partner with business owners to change their workspace culture. For the skeptical CEO who only looks at the bottom line, how does a healthy, friendly environment directly translate into increased productivity and profit? I mean, that's just the nature of, uh, that's just the nature of, I guess you could call it reality or truth, is that just, um, everything transfers into everything. Like, you know, everything is interconnected. And, um, so to think that your spiritual walk, or to think that your fitness, or to think that your finances, that they're not like integrated at a, at a very intense and extensive level is just like silly, you know? And so, yeah, I mean, you could probably— I mean, I know like peer-reviewed studies or anything like that, but it's just, it's kind of just one of those things that, you know, at face value it's so obvious. And so, yeah, like if you improve your fitness, you know, that's probably one of the easiest ways to, to increase just your overall productivity. And if everyone in your business or company is in line with certain aspects that you have to be fitness. But, you know, fitness specifically is just— fitness is just such a— it's such a— it's such a great teacher. And I think that's the best thing about fitness is like it's not like the most important thing, but what it is, is it's a tool and it's a— it's a gateway to just kind of— you could call it like a gateway drug to understanding discipline, understanding consistency, understanding the process, understanding just certain aspects that transcend not just fitness but transcend the workplace, transcend culture in the workplace and transcend, uh, your, your family life, everything. So everything is, is connected. And so to think that fitness is somehow its own thing is just, is just silly, and that it doesn't affect everything that you do, especially the workplace. Um, if you're a CEO or anyone, like, you're just, you're, you're missing out. Yeah, and I, I have this conversation with a lot of my, uh, business owners that come to us And I tell them right out the gates, I'm like, if you, if you think that our services is an expense, then this isn't a good— this isn't going to be a good fit. If you can look at our services, bookkeeping, tax work, all that as an investment, then you're in the right place because your health is an investment. Your team's health is an investment. What they eat, how they work out is an investment. And there's an ROI on that.. And you can see fit companies versus non-fit companies. It's, it's, it's obvious. You walk in, you can just tell by looking at, you know, how happy people are, their energy levels, you know, do they work out? Do they, do they take care of themselves? It's obvious. And that translates to happier people, better service, happier clients, more clients, and ultimately more profit. So it's, it's an investment. For sure. No doubt about it. What's one simple, effective strategy a leader can implement tomorrow to improve their team's quality of life without a massive. Budget? Hmm. Without a massive budget. You know, what's really interesting is like, I went to this one. She was a nonprofit or an owner of like a nonprofit. And she had me do like this, this talk with, you know, a bunch of, a bunch of her, I guess, employees. And so we kind of just went around the room and just kind of talked about, you know, some of the really basic things that, you know, people, you know, maybe thought were important to health and stuff like that. But I think it really just goes back to the really simple things. And so like what I told them was just like, I looked around, I was like, how, how much water do you guys like drink? You know, like, do you guys like carry around like a water bottle with you at all times? And it was, it was crazy because like I would say like 90% of the people were like, yeah, I don't really think about how much water I drink all day. And it's just like, I don't think it's the really big things. So I think that like you said, like the simple things. I mean, the very first thing that I would just say is just like have everyone on track with everyone has a water bottle and they treat it like a, like their baby. I mean, I have a water bottle I take everywhere that I go. It's literally like my child. The negative is I have to pee all the time. But, you know, if That like, it's like, it's, it's, it's never like the big massive breakthrough things. It's really just like really small aspects like that. I also think that another thing that you could do is just like gamify it somehow. I've always found that especially for men, gamifying the process is a game changer. And so I don't know, having some type of like prize or something like that, or, you know, some way to reinforce positively just the culture around a system that you know, has some competition at the forefront is really, really helpful. So I would just say like those two things as far as just very simple things, just have everyone start drinking more water and maybe figure out ways to gamify the process of, you know, people walking more steps or something like that. Just very simple things to implement. Yeah, I think gamifying always makes it more fun, right? Everyone likes to compete. Most people like to compete, we'll say, not everyone. Most people like to compete. And, you know, water is definitely— I mean, it doesn't get any cheaper than that to boost your water intake. And there's an immediate ROI on that too. I think, you know, you have more energy, you do definitely feel better, you improve metabolism when you drink more water with your food. So, and I would also add on to that is leading by example, right? That's free. You know, walking the walk and talking the talk is setting the example and showing the proof of, hey, this is how I do things and I'm loving life. Things are great. And I'm good at what I do. I'm a good boss. I'm all these things. So, I think just kind of walking the walk and talking the talk is also probably a really good way to do it. And I'm always big on just bringing in fruits into the office. You know, just having something, some sort of easy snack just to kind of really like— if, if walking the walk's not good enough, really bring it in and say, hey, you know, you guys go ahead and, you know, charcuterie board this and whatever and just eat and graze as you go. So, um, yeah, yeah, even like more, more practical lines, like there's this app called Stompers. It's like, it's called Stomper or Stompers, something like that, but it's a, it's like a gamified step counting app. So if you get everyone on Stompers, like, I think it pairs with your— it pairs with your Whoop, it pairs with your Apple Watch. I couldn't figure out how to pair it with my Whoop, but I mean, I know people have done it. But yeah, I mean, it, it gamifies to the point where like, you, you know, you can— if you take a certain amount of steps that day, you can level up your character and then you can, you know, use like something like, you know, kick someone back. Like, you know, it's— I think it's like a it's like a line and like everyone's on this line and you're trying to get to the end of the race every single day. And so whoever's in the, in the lead at the end of the day, you know, wins that day. But there's certain, you know, things that you can do. Like if you collect these coins, you can kick someone back, you know, 2,000 steps or something. So just something cool. Yeah. Something. Yeah. And I think that that's cool because it makes it more like there's more than one way to win, right? There's, there's multiple ways to win and stuff. So that's cool. There's not just one winner at the end of the month and everyone's like, all right, well, Calvin's always going to win because he's Calvin. So, you know, there's— yeah, I take. Way more steps than anybody, man. Yeah, I wouldn't want to compete in that, man. I'll take more steps than anybody. What's your step goal per day? It doesn't— I don't have a goal, but I take more steps. I do a lot of— I think I average like 20,000, man. Oh, that's healthy. Very, very solid. It's pretty good. Yeah. I'm not really good at a lot of things, man. I'm not really good at— so I'll brag on the things that I'm okay at. I'm good at taking steps. Um, I'm really good at foosball and I used to be really good at guitar. That's about it. Those are the only things I'll brag on. Everything else, uh, I don't know about that. Well, you're also good at talking about discipline and masculinity. So let's jump into the Savage Man Project. Through the Savage Man Project, you talk a lot about discipline and masculinity. In terms of the family pillar, how does a man's physical health and discipline impact his ability to lead at the dinner table and stay present with his spouse and. Children? Yeah, I think it's like, it's super multifaceted. I think that it's just, it's one piece of being a leader in your family. I think that it's funny, like when my nephews come over, I always tell them like, you know, who's in charge of the house? Who's in charge of the house? And, you know, at first they were like, you know, Uncle Calvin's in charge of the house. I'm like, nope, who's in charge of the house? And they're like, now they understand, like, oh, God's in charge. God's the one in charge. I'm like, yep, you're right, you're right. Who's responsible for the house? And so they're understanding, and like, oh, Uncle Calvin's responsible. So they're understanding the, the difference between, um, dictatorship versus being a true leader. And being a true leader is taking responsibility and I think that sometimes guys, like, kind of— I don't know, it's easy to kind of, um, see leadership or your role as a man in that dictator-type authority, like that authoritative, uh, role. But really what it is, it's a, it's a, it's a responsibility. It's, it's absolutely nothing like that. It's one of those things that I feel like there's a quote or something I'm thinking about, but it's one of those things where if someone looks at like your role, like it shouldn't be a desirable thing. Like you shouldn't want to have that position. It should be something that's like, oof, this is kind of scary, this is tough. And so as the, as the man of the house, um, it's your responsibility to make sure that your family is protected, um, physically, spiritually, emotionally. And so, you know, Your physical health is just one of those pieces. And so, as a man who understands just the spiritual warfare at play and how the body ties into that and understanding how your body is an incredible tool to utilize in spiritual warfare and how your body really matters as far as just your emotions, your physical state, your mental state, and also just the level of of personifying, like, stewardship and just being a good steward of the things that God has given you. I mean, the body is literally like one of a kind. I mean, that the body that God has given you, I mean, you know, it's not like a car because a car is— it's easily disposable. Like, this is the only shot you got. This is something God has given you that's so unique, so brilliantly designed, and to just kind of throw that in the trash and not care about it, like, it just speaks a lot about or it would just speak a lot about how you steward everything else in your life. So it's not the most important component, but it's definitely an important component. It's very important. So as a leader of your home, filtering those things in a way that is loving and in a way that is led by example, it's crucial. So maybe some more practical things like You know, like, like I'm going to get down to like super practical things like me and my wife every single time. Like once we're done with the gym, we're driving home and there's this taco place that we freaking love. If you're— again, I'm from San Antonio, so like we have the best breakfast tacos ever. If you're from San Antonio, you go to a breakfast taco place, get the chilaquiles breakfast taco. And so we drive by this place. It's literally our favorite place. It's the best place. And there's times when like You know, you're done with the gym, you're freaking hungry, and you're driving by this place. And, you know, we have specific budget goals, we have specific health and fitness goals, and, you know, certain, certain times of the year, you know, we're trying to eat a little bit less, or, you know, it's just, that's, it's just the nature of stewardship. And so it's so easy to get off track. And I'm not a guy that's going to come on here and say like, you can never have breakfast tacos or whatever, but when you're trying to stay on track and it's, there's, there's an agenda it's so easy to just drive by that taco place and just be like, let's just, let's just break that agenda, you know, let's, let's go spend some money and let's go eat some tacos. And I'm not saying, you know, you can't be spontaneous at times, but I would say the first thing is you have to establish that agenda, like what's the goal, you know? And as the man, it's like if your wife's not on board with that and you're like, now we can't do that and you don't have any direction, then it's going to be like, well, why not? But it's easy to fall back on something if you're, if you're in a constant, like if you're constantly meeting with your spouse about these things or always, you're always on the same page with these things. It's very easy, you know, to be like, nope, we're not stopping, you know, this time. And, you know, it's just, it's not a good time to do this or whatever. And so I think that, you know, it all just kind of stems back to just like the relationship with your spouse. I had a student one time, all, all that I had him do was Every single week or every single day, he would have to break a sweat. Every single week, he would have to meet with his spouse just as kind of a debrief. And then every single week, me and him met one-on-one. Yeah. And like, that's probably— I would say if there's one thing that contributes to any of my students' results, positively or negatively, it's if the people in your environment promote your goals or not. You're just a product of your environment. So to think that you can assert that somehow, it's not impossible, but it's it's darn near impossible. And so if your spouse isn't on the same page, on the same track, if you're not able to lead your spouse or lead the people in your environment in that way, then your health is just going to struggle. And so, yeah, everything just comes back to you as your responsibility. And so it's your role as a man to kind of take the reins with that and understand and educate yourself. I mean, the system doesn't educate you, and so you need to go out there and you need to educate yourself on What does this look like? What does it even mean to have a healthy relationship with food? How do I view this? And, you know, what's like if a man can't regulate his own fitness, like, why does he think that he's going to have that ability to do so with his, with his, with his own household? So yeah, it starts with you, starts with, you know, establishing, you know, those things and just kind of— but yeah, the effects of that are tremendous. It's easy to pull people along when you lead by example. We already talked about that earlier and that's That's a big part of, you know, the, the formula is if you, if you want a healthier marriage, if you want a healthier lifestyle, um, you know, you got to be the change, right? And, and people will follow because you're going to show all the benefits of it. It's going to be obvious. People are going to look around and see like, wow, so-and-so has changed, they're, they're doing this and that, like, I want to do that. And like My wife and I are the same way, you know. We, we try to, uh, influence each other in positive ways by not just telling each other, you know, the best way to do something. It's by actually living it and leading by example. So yeah, I think that's really important. If you, if you want your kids to be, you know, if you— everyone wants their kid to be a good kid and, you know, to be, uh, be, uh, partaking in, in the community and all those things. Like, you know, you got to be that person too first because they're gonna, they're going to model exactly what you do. Absolutely. So, um, change takes time, and you say you're in it for the long haul. How does your faith or personal sense of purpose keep you grounded when the quick-fix culture tries to pull your clients away from the. Fundamentals? Yeah, I think that the, the The cool thing about what I believe in my worldview is that it makes everything else unimportant and it gives me the freedom to see everything else as unimportant and to see it for what it really is. You know, I think that from the world's perspective, it's easy to see fitness as vanity. It's easy to see it as, you know, kind of the thing. And you got these guys on one hand, I don't know if you know the— what's the Don't Die guy? He's, he's basically a— what is his name? I can't remember, but he's basically like, you know, he does these crazy research studies on himself. He's trying to reverse his age and stuff like that. And I think it's something Johnson anyways. But yeah, he's called the Don't Die Guy. And you know, that's kind of how the world sees it. Like our, our entire worldview of life is filtered through this thing called death. And the way that I like to provide the analogy is that truth is like fire. And to further the analogy, I would say that absolute truth is absolute outcome. So basically everyone's hand is moving towards the fire and the absolute truth is what's going to happen when your hand touches the fire. And so the most absolutely true thing, as you know, in life is taxes. The other absolute true thing is death. So we're all moving towards this state that is undeniably reality that we're going to die one day. And so everyone's hand is going to touch the fire. So we've all come up with these systems or ideas about what's going to happen when we touch the fire. Some people say that we're going to get burned and some people say that, no, you're going to grow like hair on your chest. And so they become the hairy-chested religion or whatever. And so that's how religion is born and everything is born. Everyone comes up with their theories or whatever. You know, my, my fundamental belief is that, you know, Jesus Christ was who he says he was and that the resurrection was his proclamation that he defeated death and that if we put our faith and trust in him, he promises that same outcome for us. And so with that worldview in mind, like I said, everything just kind of just becomes like a— you could call it like a side hustle or more just like it doesn't really— not as— not say it doesn't matter, but in the grand scheme of things, It is what it is. And so fitness as a reality, it's stewardship. That's all it is. It's not vanity. The world sees it as vanity. The world sees it as, as, you know, you know, YOLO, you know, you only get one life. So some people take that as YOLO, let's go skydiving, you know, and, you know, risk it all. And some people say, no, no, YOLO, we have to be risk averse. We have to save for the future. We have to really invest in our health and stuff like that. Those things are all great. Those things are fantastic. But from my worldview, from my perspective, all that is is just stewardship. It's just something that God has given me. It's something that God has allowed me to have to ultimately just be the proper representation of him as an image bearer. And so to me, that's what it's all about. And so I don't really, I don't really have this identity wrapped up in fitness. And I think that that's so crucial that my identity is wrapped up in something other than fitness, because that's what the Savage Man Project is all about. It's about, you know, these things being important, but not more important than the thing that's the most important, which is, which is my worldview and just that Jesus Christ is King. And yeah, that's pretty much, pretty much how I kind of see the world. I love it. I love it. We're getting here towards the end here, Cal. I just want to go over a couple of key takeaways for our audience before we take off. The direct link between workspace health and business profit. Is undeniable. There's no question some of the highest performers in your company or executives or business owners, they're, they're, they're health conscious and they care about their employees' health and they push healthy environments. And it all leads to— it's not the reason that we do it because personally, the way I see it is, yeah, sure, I may aesthetically, you know, look younger and be more fit, but like, I do it because my mental game is just so much stronger. I'm just, there's just so much more clarity. I'm so much more happy. I'm so much more organized. So, you know, living a healthy life has just so many advantages beyond profit and vanity. Also, the importance of the long haul versus the quick fix. It's like a well-known thing that quick fixes are only as quick as they fix. They also fall apart. So it's all about a lifestyle change. It's not about a challenge. And challenges are fun. They're, they're good ways to kickstart things. They're good ways to kind of of, you know, make things exciting. But ultimately, you know, your health is a long-haul game, and you got to make sure that each decision you make, uh, is towards your goals and where you want to be. And then health is a foundation for, uh, any legacy-driven leader. In order to continue into the future, you've got to have good health. We've seen so many of our, our uncles, our fathers, our, our in-laws, our friends. We've seen people have success at the expense of their health, and they always have some sort of crippling, debilitating thing that happens to them from a health standpoint. And it's sad, and they leave a lot of people in their wake. So, um, in order to have that, that legacy-driven leadership, you got to really prioritize health, uh, Calvin, your mission is amazing and your decision, your dedication to this, the savage masculinity level of discipline is amazing. Keep spreading the word. If you're a business owner ready to step, ready to stop the health-wealth trade-off, you know, visit Calvin. He's on Instagram, he's on LinkedIn. We have his free 21-day coaching program link. All those links are going to be in the show notes. Calvin, thank you so much for your time, your patience, your, your candidness. Hopefully we can check in with you again maybe next year. This is a good timing for people who are looking to make some changes in the new year. But just remember, you don't have to make your changes on 1/1. It can be at any time in your life. So stop saying it's going to happen in January when you can start doing it now. That's what I'm talking about. Thanks, Joe. All right, everybody, thank you for listening to The Vici Code. Keep building, keep leading, and we'll see you on the next episode. Thanks for tuning in to The Vici Code, where the underdogs rise and the numbers finally make sense. If today's story hit home, share it. And remember, faith fuels a fight, and your comeback is already in progress.